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December 27, 2012

 Patrie is a French word which means the homeland, fatherland, motherland, native country.

The Coptic patrie means in short the Coptic homeland and State.

In a previous article we coined the word “Coptia”, where, we said, the word means the Copts’ physical space, Coptic community and Coptic nation.

We had aimed to revolutionise the concept of our understanding of ourselves: previously, we looked at ourselves as a Church (i.e. ecclesia or the group of people who follow the Coptic Church), people and sometimes, with a lot of hesitation, nation. We never saw ourselves tied to a land of ours – Egypt was our physical space even though we never had full or partial control of it, and when others ruled us and decided for us what would become of that physical space, and more importantly, what would become of us.

The novelty that the word has introduced is its association with a “Coptic” physical space – the Copts’ spiritual and temporal space. Any part of Coptia, wherever it is, will become a national property of all the Copts; and their collective space, here, there and everywhere, will assume a patrie-like quality. This is the real revolutionary novelty about the word.

Now, we want to be even more specific: Coptia is the Coptic nation and the potential Coptic patrie (homeland, fatherland, motherland, native country, Coptic state). We do not shift in our conviction that the Copts constitute a nation, a cultural one presently. Does it necessarily need to convert into a political nation with its nation-state? We don’t know yet. As we have said, we are unionist by first choice, but all depends on the Muslims of Egypt – if they deny us equal status and freedom, we do not have any doubt that Egypt will partition in the future. While the concept of Coptia as patrie is not a political fact, it helps to imagine it and be prepared if we are pushed by the fascist Islamists to look for other options.

10 Comments leave one →
  1. JKL permalink
    December 27, 2012 9:00 pm

    Dear Dioscorus
    Given your understandable disappointment at the over reliance of Arabic and other languages by Coptic churches at the expenses of Coptic, why don’t we dispense with such foreign words and concepts like PATRIE?
    Surely a people like Egypt, possible the First Nation State in history can come up with their own word. What is Egyptian/Coptic for PATRIE?

    • Dioscorus Boles permalink*
      January 6, 2013 1:33 am

      Don’t think there is a word in Egyptian/Coptic for ‘patre’. I believe this is a modern concept and perhaps not existent in all languages as they were in then past. But I may be wrong.

  2. December 27, 2012 10:18 pm

    JKL was the person that inspired me to complement the notion of MuslimEgyptiCoptic people & persons!But this point regarding Coptic words or gramatical terms,seems wrong because the word “COPTIC”,IS ITSELF A GREEK WORD FOR eGYPTIC,correct? The Hebrew word Misraim,or the like or the black nationalists word for black soil,are both native terms but not current right?I cannot remember the original pronounciation of the native Egyptian term for Egyptian!But EgyptiCOPTIC sums it up,Am I terribly wrong?

  3. December 27, 2012 10:21 pm

    Reblogged this on socialhumanrace and commented:
    EgyptiCoptic sums up the Greek terms for Egypt,to me!But I do not see why Coptic people have to abandon all else in western context!Just do not use Arabic!

    • Dioscorus Boles permalink*
      January 6, 2013 1:35 am

      Thank you very much, my friend, for your interest in my blog and your supportive words. Wish you a very happy New Year. Dioscorus

  4. January 1, 2013 3:58 pm

    A Happy New Year to you, may God grant you happines , good health and victory on your enemies.

    • Dioscorus Boles permalink*
      January 6, 2013 1:35 am

      Thank you, Will. Wish you and your loved ones a great year. God bless. Dioscorus

  5. mindthehat permalink
    January 1, 2013 6:07 pm

    Ⲛⲟϥⲣⲓ ⲣⲟⲙⲡⲓ ⲉⲛⲃⲉⲣⲓ [ Nofri rompi enveri, Egyptian for happy new year].

    To my simple mind, it will happen. The question that remains is whether it will be through bloodshed or peacefully. For now, it seems to me that all the Copts need to start advocating the equation of: full equality or complete separation. Of course, we all know and I hope the world proves me wrong, the Arabic culture would not respond favourably to the Coptic demand of full equality. Then when the time is ripe for full separation, nobody could blame the Copts for jumping off a sinking ship.

    • Dioscorus Boles permalink*
      January 6, 2013 1:42 am

      Nofri rompi enveri to you also, my friend. I agree with every word. We must stick, sincerely, to the high moral ground. If our demand for full equality is not heeded, then no one can blame us for working for partition.



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